Watch the TonyBen videos on YouTube. Could be paperweights. Thats a double-whammy of reduced demand in the current market. I have talked to people in person in TN that were overjoyed at having Beretta move there. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. I would sell the xd .45 and the xdm 9mm I already have but I dont think there is much of a market for them now. I was going to buy the Saint, seemed like a.nice rifle, now.they can piss up a rope. I had some AR parts on order a few days before Sands Hook. How does a company respond to pernicious laws and an atmosphere which is detrimental to the People of the Gun? RRA models, like the RRAGE, LAR15, BTB, ATH, LAR68 & Light Mountain, are available in many different color options and calibers. Get a Dan Wesson instead. This is why I said should not will. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. That doesnt change whats actually been proven that was three years ago. At the same time, Rock River Arms began to build AR-15 style rifles. Rock River Arms also produces M1911 pattern pistols, bolt-action rifles, and AR-15 style pistols in assorted calibers. [5] [6] Im not ordering anything Springfield. Going the other direction nobody would move. is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. Good for them. Is there a list somewhere? So, youre not buying a bunch of Springfields new pistols? I asked one. Id say they are a step above most other production 1911s. Well, said. Dennis Reeses statement to TTAGon IFMAs deal was insulting. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. Dont forget about the Ruger, Smith and Wesson sellout.. I think it was meant to be used with gloves on only. THEY MUST PARISH AND EVERYONE WHO DOESNT BACK ME IM GONNA CURSE AT AND BE MEAN TO!!! The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. Damn shame. If signed into law, the bill his lobbyist declined to oppose will drive many dealers out of business with its onerous and expensive restrictions and requirements. Audits of the players, including the lobbyist and relevant politicians, and FOIAs or something for pending investigations against all the same could prove enlightening. And rra. If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. At least the company would survive, even if the move was costly. And their quality has never wavered (damn straight). NOW all I can think is SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. Asit should. I used to have a TRP. Good luck! I was a dedicated 1911 guy and really wanted to stick with something with a grip safety like the EMP contour or even the R-51. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? Make the bill political kryptonite. Cancelled orders? So thats a reason for ignoring the fact that Ruger basically wrote the assault weapons ban? they should have fought not laid over. That is only if Springfield Arms survives this. Was very interested in this new pistol too as a possible single-stack semi-auto alternative to my J-frame. They must be put out of business for their treachery. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the My time stinks apparently. Weve even got a state-centric message board/forum promoting gun rights. The vocal retards who screamed about this conveniently ignored that last part. Or how much it was going to take to replace them? WebA similar thing happened with Yeti and the NRA, where Yeti ended their NRA-specific discount program but included them in a broader discount program. Magpul moved. Its real easy for you people to bash a company when you dont own shit. Also, RRA derives the bulk of its money from government and LE contracts so youll have a really hard time bankrupting them with a civvie sales boycott. If your going to bash or boycott one then bash and boycott all. When you sell high dollar items like firearms, it is really, really, unbelievably stupid, to piss off your customer base at rebate time. We can live without them much better than they can live with out us. I think a hit to Springfield sales should get them leaning on the IFMA (who should be facing a hit to subscribers) enough for the IFMA to not fold in the future. Compare. Did SA forget that this isnt 1988 anymore and that the internet exists? S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. I read somewhere that there is a city named Springfield in almost every state in the Union. About three years ago, RRAs Elite Operator hit the market sporting features designed specifically for professionals. From what I gathered from this article and all the information I viewed about this organization its hard to say just how much control SA and RRA has over the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. The RRA LAR-15 is a quality gun, in just about any configuration you can come up with. Bonus was it was stainless frame and made in the USA. I put 3.5k rounds through it before a malfunction. I hate to say this Tony, but you are completely clueless about lobbyists. RRA IS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT CAN MAKE A RELIABLE AR-10. No more. They make a so-so M14 copy that can only stand up because Norinco cant export their el-cheapo copy here anymore. WebProduct Description. Plenty of folks out there shooting LWRC, ArmaLite, DPMS who would argue theirs are reliable, accurate, & mo betta too. That being said, even if we do, Springfield is done as a company. My inventory of six XD pistols two 1911 .45s and two M 1As will be up for sale tommorow. Of course there will be others that benefit as well. PERIOD. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. The ATH V2 comes with an 18-inch, stainless steel, And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. Have you not been following this story? RRA should be punished too. Not now. F$&@ Ruger too! So in a nutshell Ruger and Springfield are now on the list. Having this blow up the day before a brand-new product launch at the NRA convention is basically the exact opposite of fortuitous timings for Springfield. These lobbyists arent in business to protect gun owners or the Second Amendment. Rock solid performer. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? if you run a company and you dont know whats going on this is what you deserve. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. WebSo What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? Because of rumors of canceled orders. Thats kind of where Im at as well, REALLY pissed Im not going to be buying the Socom II Ive been saving for. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. IMO, this last election postponed the literal civil war Ive been advocating for for over 10 years. Screw them. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. once you jump in bed with the marketing types. Ruger didnt compromise, they wrote the AWA and betrayed every American gun owner in a most serious way. Did Springfield get shouted down at their own party? Lots of work. Advertise their treachery. Youve just restated Bill Rugers justification for selling out gun-rights so he could keep his company viable. Good grip, low muzzle flip/recoil, ambi controls, no mag safety and very easy to strip/reassemble. Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Rock River, Ive seen people complain about Glock and Colt, Hex Mag, and about a dozen more. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront. CZ-75/85 are great guns. Anyone who tries will come out worse for the experience. When I found out that they hire Vets to assemble and test them, it was icing on the cake and I got one for low $400s. See below for more information. Sooner or later they are going to destroy you. Only Ruger has in the past few years regularly donated millions to the NRA. Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. I am happy with my Polytech. We do not need traitors in our midst. Rock Rivers AR builds are superb, and they come in at a price thats quite reasonable (starting at $1,585). Now Springfield will learn the hard way. I.e., Target blamed climate change on revenue misses. That should be true. Pretty small and isolated country town. Kahr moved out of NY. Was also saving up for an m1a. Czech Republic makes good guns,like CZs. Dont know what will replace the EMP4 but I bet the TRP itch gets scratched by a Dan Wesson. You ask what was Springfield supposed to do? Beretta (ex-MD) and Remington (ex-NY) make your statements look foolish. Never bought anything Springfield Armory, never will! As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. Or companies selling imported crap that pretend to be American. it Thank God we have a Rural King now here local. Theyve earned back the support of 2A advocates, imo. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. A big reason that these rifles shoot so well is the barrel. The barrels Rock River use come from the Connecticut-based company, Wilson Arms (wilsonarms.com). Wilson makes the barrel, contours it and starts the chambering process. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. Bill is long gone and the last 15yrs of Ruger leadership have taken a much different stance. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved. Springfield cleaning to get the taint out of there. If they pull funding from the group well have some decent evidence that they didnt and dont support this carve out and are catching crap for something which they had no part in creating. Make it a campaign issue NOW. Rock River Arms built its reputation on quality semi-automatic AR-pattern rifles and 1911 handguns. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. Meanwhile, theres another, ahem, firearm blog, that refuses to address the SA/RRA issue. Make this a massive intractable mess. Im both an Illinois resident and a SA collector with over half of my collection being custom and box SA products. I dont have anything from either of the turncoat manufacturers and based on their actions, I never will. +1, they are a bunch of liars praying on the ignorant. However, again I wasnt really in the market to add anything else from their company to my safe anyway. Everyone here is minding our business, because its our business where our money goes. The XD and Saint are good guns, but they really arent all that different from a lot of other good guns on the market. Accurate and precise for Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. But it will be history at my house. thats what matter and they put that last. Up yours Springfield! my first AR was a rock river arms rrage. theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. Built on the companys RRAGE upper and lower receiver and handguard assemblies, the pistol delivers a sleek profile. My favorites in their calibers, cherished in my collections. Your Price: $744.13. They rebrand the HS2000 as the XD and jack up the price $200. Ive refused to buy S&W products since then, with the sole exception of a Model 640 Pro .357 Magnum, which lacks the damned thing. How is it that they even survived to change in the first place? Thanks Springfield. Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but check out Fulton Armory: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. Id bet a bunch of employees would jump at the chance go move from IL to TN or MO or TX. Wasnt sold on DAO until I shot it. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. I used to love my Springfield XDM and M1a national match. Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. The rights of citizens that theyve agreed to negotiate away will NEVER be restored. And unbelievably stupid of Springfield. All evidence to the contrary? Expect deep, deep discounts on that warehouse full of XD-Es and Saints they were hoping to sell this summer. And theyre telling their friends. Great gun. Companies move all the time. Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. The owners at S&W that colluded with Clinton paid the price for it. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. How many Illinois politicians wind up going to jail? Totally revitalized the economy of an American community with their 3rd plant. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 S&W was sold for 12% of its former value. This attention to accuracy is especially evident in Rock Rivers new model, the Advanced Tactical Hunter V2 (ATH V2). They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions. Apples and suspension bridges here. The law doesnt get past the senate without Springfields cooperation. In the world of .308 Win. However, if youre willing to spend a little extra money on your rifle, Rock River Arms is definitely worth considering. It might not have, but then again, if Senator Harmon didnt think it wouldnt have gotten himthat last vote or two he needed, he wouldnthave offered the deal. Rock Bolt Gun Rbg-1s Starting At $4,450. The Rock River Arms LAR-15 RRage 3G 5.56/.223 Rifle is a semi-auto rifle that delivers accurate shooting in a dependable platform with a clean, trim look. Springfield Armory had two, and their now-fired lobbyist held the fourth IFMA directorship. There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. I was just about to order another springfield xdm .45. AND started planning to move out of the state. Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock I really wanted a trp and a cqb but oh well will get something from another manufacturer. The CMMG MkW-15 XBE Anvil gets the top pick for enthusiasts that handload or shoot a lot. Whats left after the hate which never leaves? Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. We picked up a few seats last fall, but that simply moved the average ideology of the Dem members further left in our state legislature. The original company lives on today under the name Winche ster. Overall, this is a good, solid rifle. Are they doing town halls? After Ruger (finally) gets all of its new products launched they will have just about all the bases covered. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. Or cameras? Probably hard now to sell it for half what you paid if at all. Fuck Ruger as well. Smith and Ruger more than compensated for erroneous thinking. Personally hate to hear whenever CEOs or head honchos make public decisions costing their employees jobs/money. 2nd Amendment Supporters are up in "Arms" pun intended about the News broken by The Truth About Guns article concerning recent state licensing for all Illinois gun dealers that IFMA (Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association) a lobbying group back by Springfield Armory and Rock River I only purchase products from them with free shipping because they rape you on shipping. My target is when my oldest daughter graduates from high school. I thought it was great that they were living in the same liberal hell hole that I was living in. That guy knows the M14 and M1a rifles. They ignored it. If RRA didnt know about this and, as a sign of their disgust, drops their funding and membership in the trade group youd still hold them accountable? WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. A whole lot of gun owners see the deal as a sell-out. AR-15 Parts. Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. An American didnt screw all other American gun-owners. As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. How many model airplanes can I buy, sell or trade in one year? LAR 8 is a nice weapon. No offense intended. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Fred Eichler Predator 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. And to be fair, those are twice the price of the Ruger. Fight it. Nice deal on it until 4 July as well. Both are were on their way to selling over a quarter million of Springfield product this year. Then beg for forgiveness. After asking you if youd like to sign up for a membership, and cc insurance. Major mistake, Springfield. Rock River Arms had one seat. And their ammo prices were astronomical. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. You should buy a BCM, Daniel Defense, or LWRC. Some would disagree. Good for them, too. I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. The local ones are more like highway bandits than gun dealers. And if they do, all the company has to do is say sorry like Ruger. ), I DO have a choice with firearms. If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. However, too many judges seem to rule on what they think should be fine, instead of the law. Yes, that is the cloud which is usually much larger than the silver lining. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History. Its about the same price as an M1A. They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions.. But Illinois only has about 2.1m gun owners of 12m population thats fewer by a significant margin than the number of hard-core urban Dems in Chicago alone. Thanks a bunch pricks! I look at their site and the parts were available from the same warehouses at a higher price. I cannot in good conscience support in any way a company that would pull this kind of stunt. My 1911 search continues and Ill never purchase a Springfield. * How to order a firearm: See The Guide. I have a Rock River PDS carbine. Never sold out to foreign companies or parts sources or manufacturing or skimped on quality control. Mostly out of states with onerous laws and heavy taxation. Rugers stated public position was screw every other gun manufacturer and screw the American gun owners, as long as Ruger makes it and we want government contracts! Ive never had better customer service with any other business. Everyone (hopefully) recognizes that Bloomberg et al use bad legislation in NY and elsewhere as models to sell to politicians elsewhere, hence the need to use all available legal avenues to demonstrate the fallout from such actions. Rock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer located in Colona, Illinois. Now I wish I had not. When no one else had any left. Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. Glad I happened upon this article. These fat dumb and happy political hacks arent used to burning time and money on issues this far out. When I explained that sales were still legal before the SAFE Act deadline went into force, they still refused. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins. CTD are dirtbags plain and simple. Screw CTD. Oh yes, Illinois folks: start an ACTIVE campaign outing all the IL Representatives that voted for the bill. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). You wont be able to pull a fast one and expect to not get called out on it. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? Maybe there is a Mrs. Reese or someone or something burning cash on the side (gambling, drugs, who knows) that is consuming profit faster than SA can generate it. Low character move. Larson first said Rock River Arms had broken ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association which is only a four member board. They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Lightweight Mountain Rifle | MT1800X 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), 16" Chrome-Moly Lightweight BBL, Semi-Automatic, 6-Position Black Stock, Black Finish, RRA Lightweight, 30+1 Rds. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. They use forged parts and at least the Chinese are honest to let you know where the parts come from (China) whereas with Springfield it is a toss-up where the parts are made (I heard from Taiwan, Canada, even the Czech Republic!!). Are you reading-impaired? Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. This is how capitalism works. Well after reading this and let me add no love for blue Illinois my days with SA are over. That is their only 2 clients because it only exists and was created for them. Well do our part in other states to support you. Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. Springfield is DEAD to me. Yes I am planning on moving. To be fair- since Bill Rugers death, the company has done a complete 180. And now a sell out. This will damage Springfield Armorys brand nation-wide, in a business where reputation is everything. Those bastards. This is income tax refund time. What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? Damage done. Absolutely love them. It happens ALL THE TIME, and with companies much larger than RRA. Every damn one of you bad asses crying I wont buy from them again would have done the same thing. You write as though weve been asleep. Who Makes Rock River Arms? They can spout their support of the 2A all day, just like Shannon Watts does, but its just words. They profess innocence at this point, lets see if their actions match their words. Im appalled that Rock River thinks that we are that gullible.. That kind of thing actually happens all the time in lobbying. Post interesting results everywhere. In fact, I own a Springfield M1A Scout Squad that they gave me free of charge after I encountered a series of malfunctions with an old SAR8. All of these rifles are vastly superior to Ruger. I want to see how they fix the mess they created with the people who liked their product. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. Great grip and trigger. If it is a 16" it is 5.56, which the Entry Tactical is. Its easy for consumers to march elsewhere, skilled Illinois tradespeople may not be so lucky. That is sooo repetitious! But thats only a fraction of his treachery. Sadly I have two. I think they and Illinois deserve each other and I hope they both end up on the wrong end of history. And Im not giving them up, to anybody, under any circumstances. Bummer, I was considering a Springfield 1911 at some point. The Ceo needs to retire, and everyone on the upper levels canned to. RRA and Mr Larson are the only ones who can make a reliable AR-10. Like other gun-manufacturers Springfield can move its operations to a gun-friendly state. God Bless America, As a dealer I will no longer suggest either one of these firearm companies to my customers or stock them there are many other fine firearms on the market. You would answer your own question if you noticed my opening remark: Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. CMMG .300 blackout will become my next purchase. Didnt you read this article? We want our dealers and our valued customers to know we wont ever do anything like this again., We fully support the Second Amendment and stand by it. Layoffs to follow. My hard earned money is going to be spent at Ruger. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. We need to defend our legacy from the likes of them !! Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. Yes, very disappointed. Didnt Smith and Wesson do the same thing back in the Clinton era, and it nearly bankrupted them, let alone took them years to reclaim the trust of the gun community. It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. That will never happen now. Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. They seemed like a freedom loving company that supported the right for people to do what they had rights to do. No they dont. As for Winchester still keeping an eye out for someone selling Grandads old 94 thats beat to hell but still shoots straight so I can beat it up a bit more. While it was a great pistol, the front strap checkering was just way too aggressive for bare hands. I think probably not. If truth about guns knows whats good for them, theyll be taking this story down and apologizing publicly for spreading untrue assumptions. 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